DAUR WAS A FAR BETTER BLACK COMEDY THAN KAMINEY
Daud is indeed a fantastic black comedy, quite ahead of its time, and hence not understood by most of the Indian audience.
RGV was a good filmmaker then, and he continued until
Sarkar, and lost it since.
Kaminey is not a black-comedy. I wouldn't call it so. It's more a caper. And as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, this movie is more in the vein of
Robert Rodriguez than
Guy Ritchie - ref the first two
El Mariachi movies.
tarantino who makes fantasy violence as kaminey stays within a realistic frame despite its shortcomings -
QT has indeed made fantasy violence in the
Kill Bill movies, but that's not all he makes.
Reservoir Dogs was hardly fantasy violence. And
Pulp Fiction also doesn't fit that label. As far as
QT is concerned, again, it is a matter of personal taste that you dislike his movies. But
Reservoir Dogs,
Pulp Fiction and
Kill Bill Vol. 2 are fantastic movies. They may lack emotional maturity among other things, but then, looking for emotional maturity in a
Tarantino movie is like looking for fast-cuts and
Bay-ish explosions in a
Terence Mallick movie.
Tarantino is about characters and dialogues[/i]. But then, we're digressing.
Comparing
Satya (the best gangster movie out of Bollywood ever) to
Kaminey doesn't make sense to me. One is an ultra-serious look at underworld life in Mumbai, the other is an off-the-cuff quirky movie about quirky characters in exagerrated settings. It doesn't make sense to me to compare these two movies. Similiarly,
Omkara and
Maqbool were tragedies to begin with. They have their funny moments, but in essence, are serious movies where the protagonists face serious dilemnas. And as he has made "light" movies before/after each of these Shakespearean adaptations (
Makdee and
The Blue Umbrella), he chose to make a lighter movie after
Omkara too. To expect
Kaminey to be as heavy-handed makes no sense.
you are the one who dragged tarantino into this not me and now you are dragging rodriguez too -you are asserting yourself what i have said -vishal has assimilated about two dozen movies into this long drawn out insubstantial plot -caper movies are a different genre and you are getting far too defensive over a discussion alone -
caper is how to steal a million by william wyler or topkapi -
reservoir dogs with it's mister black and brown and white is as much a juvenile delinquent fantasy as any -
vian next make luck 2 if he desires and i will skewer that too -
as i said you have a right to like what you wish -
but when you discuss please follow some parameters -
you are already accusing offensively telling me i make no sense -
as this discussion from your perspective is not making any sense why do you perpetuate it by in fact magnifying my points instead of discovering some of your own -
i think next to me making no sense you will be calling me names like kaminey -lolz
as i said daur is a far better movie on the same subject than kaminey and the underworld portrayed far better by rgv than vishal -he should stick to his shakespearean adaptations if he wants to make art -or he can make makree or chandni chowk to china for all i care as it is his prerogative -
it is mine too to criticise what i think is not on par with his best and if that is of not making any sense to you than farewell my friend and may you be blessed with umpteen free viewings of your beloved masterpiece kaminey which to me is just a 3 star confused effort resulting out of a confounded mix of melodrama -black comedy and some black humour which was inappropriate -i wish you many many more kaminey as for me i have seen it once and that is emore than enough for me -
i would raher watch Dolly again .
REGARDS FROM THE MAN WHO MAKES NO SENSE
